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weight tube inserts - more stiff spine?

Messages posted to thread:
Tom Ward 19-Nov-09
Rick Barbee 19-Nov-09
Stringwacker 19-Nov-09
lechwe 20-Nov-09
Buff 20-Nov-09
jetdog 20-Nov-09
Flatshooter 21-Nov-09
BMejia 22-Nov-09


From: Tom Ward
Date: 19-Nov-09


Hey everyone:

Do the weight tube inserts for carbon arrows, namely carbon express, make for a significantly stiffer arrow?

I'll be using the 3 grains per inch tubes in some Heritage 250s.

Thanx,

Tom Ward

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 19-Nov-09


Since the spine of the arrow is stiffer than that of the tube, the tube itself isn't going to add any significant stiffness, because the weight is distributed over the length of the shaft.

You might find it necessary to use a weaker shaft due to loss of performance from adding the weight. Note I said "might".

Some folks have reported they were not using the tubes full length. They are cutting them down to give the exact weight they want to add, and that most definitely will effect spine, because of the unbalanced addition. If they are adding it forward, it weakens the shaft. If they are adding it at the rear it stiffens the shaft, and unless you epoxy them in place (and even then) there is a potential risk of shift.

Just as a side note, and a suggestion for another option of adding weight - you might look into using the Goldtip weight system. It fits the CE shafts, and gives you the ability to accurately adjust both weight (front, and aft), and spine without the worry of a possible shift, or the potential of noise created from the tube recoiling inside the arrow.

I use the GT weight system exclusively, because I have tried all the others, and for me the others come no where near measuring up.

From: Stringwacker
Date: 19-Nov-09


I find that the internal tubes weaken the spine. A heavier wood arrow requires a heavier spine than a lighter wood arrow out of the same bow.

I foumnd the same principal to be true with full length weighted carbons.

From: lechwe
Date: 20-Nov-09


I use the 3gn/in tubes in my 55/75's and have not noticed a difference.

From: Buff
Date: 20-Nov-09


I use them without noticing any difference

From: jetdog
Date: 20-Nov-09


found the weight tubes 5g/" in 5575 & 7595 weakened the spine. Went back to adapter weights with much better results

From: Flatshooter
Date: 21-Nov-09


weight tubes definitely weaken arrow spine.

From: BMejia
Date: 22-Nov-09


in my experience with carbon express 250's and 350's, tubes of 3 gpi and 5 gpi do not effect the flight of the arrow out to 25yds. after 25 yds, the arrows drop pretty quick due to the added weight. i do not think you would be disappointed if you try them.




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